TSA defends pat-down of 4-year-old at Kan. airport

By ROXANA HEGEMAN, Associated Press – 1 day ago

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — The grandmother of a 4-year-old girl who became hysterical during a security screening at a Kansas airport said Wednesday that the child was forced to undergo a pat-down after hugging her, with security agents yelling and calling the crying girl an uncooperative suspect.

WTF? Is this what we’ve sunk to? Is this what it takes for us to feel secure and safe? Do we need government thugs terrorizing little girls? Is this fucking insane or what, folk? Can I have some angst here? Can’t you people see that there is something seriously WRONG in this country/world?

But she said the family’s main concern was the lack of understanding from TSA agents that they were dealing with a 4-year-old child, not a terror suspect.

“There was no common sense and there was no compassion,” Croft said. “That was our biggest fault with the whole thing — not that they are following security procedures, because I understand that they have to do that.”

*bold emphasis mine ~vtel

No common sense used? Ya’ think? Just following orders… er, I mean “security procedures”. Ummm… does anyone remember Nazis using this same reasoning regarding roasting millions of Jews, Gypsies, and other folks during WWII?

Croft said that for the first few nights after coming home, Isabelle had nightmares and talked about kidnappers. She said TSA agents had shouted at the girl, telling her to calm down and saying the suspect wasn’t cooperating.

Yeah… I’d bet. How long before they start doing cavity searches on infants? You know someone might just shove some C4 up little Johnny’s rectum. What? You think cavity searches of infants would be too extreme. What do you think someone who time-traveled from the 1950s would think about this incident with the little girl? They’d think it was insane. Hell, just a dozen years ago, we would have thought this all insane.

I wouldn’t be too happy if this had happened to my child, grandchild, or niece. How about you? How long more are we going to sit around and read about this shit in the papers and see it on TV before we actually do something about bringing some much needed change to this country/world. If we continue to slide down this rabbit hole, the terrorists have truly won. Their aim was to terrorize us. Nowadays, we terrorize ourselves in our attempts to protect ourselves against the terrorists who aren’t actually doing anything much anymore… except laughing.

You can thank religion for this, folks. Wise up!



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24 responses »

  1. comhack says:

    There is not much I can say but WTF!! Something has to change and the sad part is, we are going to have to start from scratch as there is too much big business controlling our politicians.

  2. Don’t quite see the connection to religion, the problem seems more to be with overly rigid rules

    • Hi Robert,

      The connection to religion is in regards to the terrorists who started our recent spate of “security procedures”… radical Islamic terrorists. Don’t misunderstand me, though. I’m not anti-Islam. I’m anti-ALL-religion. It’s all a crock of shit, as far as I’m concerned… and dangerous.

      Thanks for reading/commenting. 🙂

  3. PsiCop says:

    I’d say it’s a stretch to blame TSA excesses on religion. Yeah, it was hyperreligious terrorists who attacked us … but the TSA was our government’s response to them, and our government willingly chose that response. And ther isn’t anything religious about it.

    Really, this is much more about government bureaucrats finding ways to impress themselves into people’s lives and to keep up the appearance of vigilance in the face of danger on our behalf. If the TSA will pat down children, fercryinoutloud, then they will stop at NOTHING to thwart the terrorists.

    Or so they want us to think.

    Events like this are public, and even if they make the TSA look bad, they’re still visible and they make clear that TSA is working. If on the other hand the TSA were to rely on less-visible security measures, such as intelligence-gathering and behavioral profiling, these are things people do not see. Therefore the public is not confronted with TSA activities. And then the public might not be aware of TSA. Since the TSA is made up of people, and all people love attention, they will not willingly forgo that. They want to be seen and heard and they can only do that using “security theater.”

    The need to be noticed is related to the same impulse that makes road construction last much longer than it needs to. Here in CT at least a lot of construction projects are stretched out; the contractor will set up a project, putting out cones etc., then leave. They come back and work for a day or two, then leave, then a week later come back for a day, etc. It takes them months to do what could have been done in a week.

    Now, why would they do that? To ensure they are noticed. The longer they leave cones & construction equipment there and close lanes, the more motorists go past and see that they’re working.

    As for this incident … on its blog, TSA insists they kept the family informed about what was going on. But the family says they were told nothing at all. One party or the other is clearly lying. So how do we figure that out? By looking at incentives. A family suddenly accosted and then asked about the incident later, has less incentive to lie about it, than TSA agents whose jobs & livelihoods depend on them insisting they followed procedure.

    Lastly, I have to mention my own blog post about former TSA head Kip Hawley admitting the TSA is just one big steaming load of manure: http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2012/04/16/former-tsa-head-admits-tsa-practices-are-a-joke/

    • There is causation, as far as I’m concerned. The current government trade off of our liberties for more security is a direct result of religion. Were it not for the Christians and Jews pissing off the Moslems, there would have been no terrorist attacks on the U.S. That’s how I see it, anyway.

      • PsiCop says:

        Re: “Were it not for the Christians and Jews pissing off the Moslems, there would have been no terrorist attacks on the U.S.”

        Lots of groups … and countries … “piss each other off” all the time. They react with suicidal terrorism only on rare occasions. Being pissed off is neither an excuse nor an explanation for what they did. The 9/11 hijackers were nearly all middle-class or well-off Saudis, with no particular personal beefs, either with Christians or Jews, or with anyone else, to be perfectly honest. They had little to complain about in life.

        Sorry but I’m nowhere near stupid enough to buy the notion that the US somehow “caused” these attacks. Had the suicide-hijackers been homeless Palestinians, maybe … but not these guys.

    • “…TSA head Kip Hawley admitting the TSA is just one big steaming load of manure.”

      HA! I’ll have to go read that now. Thanks, Psi. 🙂

  4. This is not brought to us by any kind of religion, or religious extremism, although we could do with a heck of a lot less of that too.

    What this is due to is the same Fear Uncertainty and Doubt inflicted on us to make us docile so we will put up with this crap. They don’t change the authoritarian play book, they just create a new page with supposedly new names for things, and locations for the enemy.

    Of course, it’s powered by the fear of the citizens … as always. So who can we really blame.

  5. comhack says:

    I agree with all of the comments here but I tend to feel as Eric does, I think a lot of the problems with society and people in general is directly or indirectly caused by religion. Whether it be the way they were raised in the various sects that determine their values and ideas or just plain fanatics, most everything is related to some form of religious ideology. Religion has always been used by governments and those in power to control the people, whether it be through fear or belief. Nowadays, they are not directly using religion as the world is too diverse but instead they use fear and treachery to obtain their goals and strip their citizens of their rights in the name of protection (caused by fear).

    George Orwell said it best in a quote from the book 1984:
    “”Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain.”

  6. I would be very careful my friend. Tolerance has to go both ways or it’s worth nothing.

    Not everyone who is religious is a problem. Not everyone who has no religion is a problem.

    People should be taken for who they are; at face value.

    Bikers, and geeks, in particular, should understand the price of intolerance.

    Just something to think about.

    • I wasn’t targeting individuals for their beliefs. I was targeting religion as a whole. Organized religion has killed more people and caused more pain and strife in this world than any other cause in the history of man. I don’t particularly care what people believe. I just want them to keep their beliefs to themselves… in their own homes or places of worship. Keep it out of the news, out of the government, out of the schools, out of my life, etc.


  7. One final thought … from one of our Founding Fathers:

    …You will do me the justice to remember, that I have always strenuously supported the Right of every Man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it….
    ~Age of Reason Introduction, by Thomas Paine

    This is not to say you don’t do that already, because I think in most ways you do this admirably, I just thought it was an important quote.

  8. comhack says:

    I did not mean personal beliefs as I was referring to organized religion. I have no problem with people believing what they choose as long as they do not push it on me. We all have the right to believe in whatever we choose, no matter what the idea. If you believe in elves that is cool, I like elves. Just do not try to get me to believe in elves. Sorry if I offended anyone as it was late and I was a bit tipsy. You know how I ramble on sometimes, lol.

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